So I switched from.
Chat GTP to Claude, and then from Claude to Claude code.
I've been in Claude code now for about a month and a half, and every
night at the end of the day, I have two parallel tracks of feelings.
the first track is the positive track.
It's amazed at all the things that I got done.
And then the second track is the negative track.
It's angry at all the things that I learned the hard way.
So I'm hoping today that I can save you some time from learning the hard way.
cloud code definitely has a steeper learning curve than chat
GBT or even just Claude the web.
And they are Much the part of the same ecosystem, but they are entirely
different in a variety of ways, which we will talk about today.
for those of you who are online or who walked in late, I was just
sharing a fun story where yesterday my angry track included frustrations
that Claude had managed to spend $30.
I didn't approve it to spend, had managed to cancel an email campaign...that
I didn't want it to cancel.
and there was something else.
I don't remember what it was, but it, it is a wild.
A wild adventure to say the least.
So crash course is focused on AI education, both for those who are
in the marketing technology and communications communities, and really
for anyone who's trying to learn ai.
We also work specifically with neurodivergent individuals and
others who are leveraging AI to overcome accessibility difficulties
or challenges, which I think AI is especially well positioned for.
This is the fourth, the fourth session.
So online there are recordings for the very first one, which was I
think on like how to build websites with tools like, ready and lovable.
And then the second one was focused entirely on chat, GBT.
And then the third one, the one that came right before this was
focused on Claude on the web.
So we are skipping from co-work straight into Claude Code.
Can I, are you able to go full screen with the slide?
I am so glad that you asked that question.
Thank you for asking questions.
Yes.
Let's improve our user experience here.
Speaking of user accessibility, you just clicked, I'm scared.
What will happen?
Oh my goodness.
Okay.
Woo.
It got bigger.
As it does.
So, Claude Code versus Claude Cowork, we're skipping over Claude Cowork,
and that's intentional, but it might also be the wrong way to do this.
Claude Cowork in a nutshell, it's got like a cleaner user interface.
You can spin up agents, without necessarily like knowing a bunch.
You can do like really simple but powerful things like you can reorganize your
computer, you can rename all your files, you can set up a bunch of calendar events.
You can do a lot of things with Claude Cowork.
Club Cowork is, in my opinion, really designed, to give like a nice user.
Experience to individuals who are trying to get into the age agent space.
And I'm skipping over it because although it's a great stepping stone, it has a
bunch of limitations, and Claude Code has very few limitations in comparison.
Hi, thanks for coming in.
you missed all the horrible parts, so great.
Your timing is perfect.
cloud code has very few limitations.
And so if you've been using the web Claude code will feel like a completely
different thing, or at least in many ways it will feel like a different thing.
but if you come away from today feeling overwhelmed, I encourage you
to spend time in Claude Cowork instead.
It's not officially called Claude Cowork, it's just called Cowork.
I'm not sure why Claude Code is called Claude Code, but Claude Cowork.
Anyways, I didn't name these things,
My point is I'm skipping.
Claude Code does a lot of things that Claude cowork cannot do.
So you can interact with like your terminal, for those of you who are
comfortable with that space, you get access to all sorts of MCP servers agents,
and you can build independent scripts.
the sky is the limit, as they say, and we'll cover what these words mean too.
So the tell part of show and tell most of this will not be slides, but I wanted
to give like some groundwork here.
'cause otherwise I'll use words and vocab without explaining it.
I wanna start with the tell part first of all.
As someone who has recently come to the conclusion that it's unhealthy
to stay up until 2:00 AM learning how to use cloud code let me tell you, I
learned a lot of things the hard way, and I'm hoping I could save you from
the lessons that I learned the hard way.
First of all, in Claude Code where you go to type into the chat, there's
a little button on the bottom.
Left.
And that has a few different modes.
The two that I want to call your attention to, there's one that is
called, no permission required.
that one's especially fun and dangerous.
but the one that you should be really focused on using during your first few
weeks in cloud code is called Plan Mode.
And the great thing about plan mode is just like it sounds,
it's gonna run a plan by you.
So you can sit there and you can talk to it If you prefer, you can actually
use your voice now, which I've started doing with mixed results sometimes,
probably because the way I talk isn't always as organized as the way I
write, but plan mode is really good because it will run by an entire plan.
It'll run that by you and it will seek approval and revisions on that plan.
And you do need to read that plan.
because a lot of times my experience is that it will get
like 95% of what I wanted to do.
It'll get it right, but it will miss like one thing, and I can often trace back
that misunderstanding, quite frankly, to poor communication on my part.
Ai.
Or at least Claude Code in particular is very, very logic driven.
And it uses its own logic, not my logic, right?
My logic tends to be like more emotional in nature.
Claude Code in particular will do exactly what you tell it
to, to a failure point, right?
For example, if I say something like, here are three transcripts, make
the best possible presentation using this template and the transcripts,
turn it into a PowerPoint.
If that's all I give it, it will focus in on the idea of creating what it considers
to be the best and what it considers to be the best may or may not align
with what I consider to be the best.
So when I work with ai, but especially when I work with Claude Code, I
pretend at all times that Claude is an intern sitting next to me.
It is.
a very unique intern in that it is both wildly capable of doing almost
anything, and two, it is wildly capable of getting things terribly incorrect
if I am not specific and detailed, and if I don't speak with constraints.
So
plan mode.
Another thing to know, and we're gonna talk today about how to change
this and how to evolve your setup so that this is not a problem.
But even with all the safety mechanisms, even if you spend an immense amount
of time, setting up what I would describe as your architecture and your
infrastructure, Claude Code's memory is not a hundred percent reliable.
My favorite example of this is that, for six weeks I have done everything
I could think of to get Claude code to know what day it's, and although it's
capable of remembering massive amounts of context about all sorts of projects that
I'm working on, it remembers my Family tree, my mom's name, my ex-girlfriend.
It remembers all sorts of things.
Somehow it does not yet remember what day it.
I dunno why I haven't figured out how to squash that bug yet.
Hopefully that's not true for you.
But my point is that if you're in the middle of like a work session and you're
not done, first ask yourself, can I finish this before I close my computer?
Best possible case scenario is that you can't, if you can't, I highly
encourage you, even though it's very rare that it will be necessary, I
highly encourage you to copy and paste your session like the last 10 or 15
minutes of it into a notepad or a text item that doesn't live in Claude.
I don't have it go wrong very often, so I don't wanna, like alarm you or
make you feel like you shouldn't use this because it's, it's not useful.
That's not at all the case, but there's nothing worse than being in
the middle of something really, time consuming and after three hours.
Coming back to your computer and you try to start a new session
and Claude says, the what and the what and the where, right?
So the memory is not a hundred percent reliable.
I definitely back up things if I'm midstream.
What else did I learn in the hard way?
I only just learned this one the other day.
Just like on the web, the context window of a session, which I usually
think of in my head as a thread 'cause it's like a chat window.
but each session you really wanna keep it focused.
One of the mistakes that I made that was taking, a lot of token usage
and also just resulting in a lot of errors where it would get confused
is I would try to talk to it as if it completely understood my A DHD.
And although it does a pretty good job of understanding my A DHD most of the time
it's not so great at handling a session where you intertwine multiple things.
So if I'm working on an email campaign for the Ocean Project and I'm working
on a website for the Lake project and I'm also asking a questions about.
Something that I'm trying to register for.
Maybe it's a concert it's going to get confused.
It's gonna make mistakes.
So I, when I start, I kind of organize my workspace by creating three or
four sessions and I separate out what I'm working on in those different,
threads or session threads, if you prefer, regardless of what you're
doing, if you've been in it for more than an hour, talking nonstop, probably
a good idea to start a new thread.
because again, it just, if you think about it, it has to kind of like reread
the entire conversation every time.
And so it's just natural as it would be for a human that if you keep
giving me notes and notes and notes, eventually I'm gonna get lost, right?
Or at the very least, I'm gonna spend a lot of energy that I don't need to spend.
We talked about this briefly earlier, but constraint.
It's really, really, really, really valuable.
And we're gonna talk about the Claude MD file, which is your
most basic form of architecture.
The Claude MD file gets loaded every single time when you first launch
Claude, so it's your best chance at governance in the most basic form.
And so often when I come upon a new rule or constraint, I'll say, memorize that,
and it will memorize that for next time.
Right?
And you can probably imagine there are all sorts of constraints.
Your brand colors, your voice and tone, words you don't want to use.
Things you don't want it to do.
ways you want it to do things like don't make a recommendation for a tool
until you've researched it and verify that it actually works with a Mac.
You'll learn as you go Yet, even with constraints in the MD file, it's valuable
to have prompts with constraints in them because, that way you're forcing
it to know what those are, right?
So even though I have those constraints as a fallback on a session by session
basis, often there's something unique that it doesn't need to be memorized, right?
It doesn't apply to everything, but it applies to that session.
like a really common one is, do a test of this and make me one out
of 10 slides, or do a test of this and write me five out of the 50
messages that you're going to create.
Something that will allow you to kind of get a sense of whether or not it's
tracking what you want it to do correctly.
One of the most exciting parts of Claude Code is that you can create
scripts, and if you've never created a script before and don't know what it
is, it's essentially like a mini little piece of software, on your computer.
Like an example of a script that you could create would be, I could create
a script that manually scans seven job boards and puts together a list of
jobs that fit certain descriptions and then emails me about those jobs, right?
And you could do far more complicated things with scripts than that.
But scripts are valuable for a variety of reasons, and one of them
is that they don't use any tokens.
Require Claude code to build the script, but you don't require Claude
Code tokens to run the script.
So once you build the script, you can kind of run it on repeat
and it doesn't cost, token usage.
So the more things you can build out as scripts, the less likely you are to have
to spend $200 a month on Claude Code.
The way that I usually think of it is that there's like a Queen Bee and Claude Code
is the Queen Bee and the scripts are the little worker manager bees and they are in
charge of all sorts of other little bees that are below them, on the org chart.
I'm spending most of my time as the human interacting with the Queen Bee.
Is then trying to manage, you know, the whole swarm.
This one I haven't yet made peace with because as much as I love
new technology and new computers, there's nothing I hate more, than
setting up a new laptop or computer.
So for those who are in like really into Claude code, you might be familiar
with what I call like the MacBook Run.
people are going out and they're buying MacBook Minis like crazy.
The prices are of use.
MacBook Minis are starting to skyrocket.
this is being, further, emphasized by open call, which we're not
talking about today, but what shares a lot in common with cloud code.
and so the simple reality is.
When your computer is not on, your automations cannot run, right?
If I have a little automation that's gonna check my email every 20 minutes and it's
gonna automatically respond to people that need help with a certain topic, that's
not gonna run when I close my computer.
So you basically have two options.
You can go get a new computer if you wanna get really into like ongoing
automations and so forth, or you can do what I've done, which is
to move towards the cloud instead.
So I use a. cloud based, VPS or virtual private computer.
So I use AWS just because, you know, I'm already ruining the
world with all the things I order.
I just figured I might as well continue down that path.
But AWS is really easy to set up.
It's got an API cloud code, can connect to it with just the API key.
You don't have to know that much about AWS to get set up on it, which is kind of fun.
I also have another, virtual private server called Vulture, which
I'm using 'cause it has certain capabilities that AWS doesn't.
But the point is, those run all the time, right?
I'm spending 10 or 15 bucks a month on virtual private servers, and those make it
possible for me to create things that are just on autopilot, running day and night.
Do you have those, running your scripts mostly, or are
they hosting clouds like LLM?
They are mostly running scripts, they're hosting my agents or they're
hosting, software that I've created, or that's a generous way to say open
source software that I've borrowed.
so for example, like I used to have an email server through
something like MailChimp, right?
And when I got into this, I got really excited 'cause I had always dreamed of
having like full control over my email.
And so I used an open source email server and I'm hosting it.
That one had to go, I can't remember why, but I put it on Vulture.
And so the code base was free, the customizations, all I had to do
is spend some token usage and all I paid is like 10 bucks a month
and I send out 2000 emails a day.
As were before.
I was paying, you know, like 80 to a hundred bucks a month for that capability.
So
all of the above, but not the LLM.
I don't know if you could put the LLM also on the cloud and if that would save
token usage, that would be exciting.
I'm very unhappy with my token usage issues right now, so I'm intrigued.
I don't know the answer to that, but for me, I'm using it for
scripts, software, and agents.
I'm talking really fast, but please ask questions.
so just a few more vocab words and resources and then we'll get
into like the fun stuff on screen.
Your markdown file.
This is just an md. You'll hear this described a lot.
You'll see cloud code referencing it a lot, right?
It'll say like looking at MD file, when you see that it's just a super
lightweight, it's basically like a text file, that's specifically written
in a way that anything that can read markdown will know the difference
between like paragraphs and subheadings and bullet points and so forth.
And if you're really into code, you can even write in markdown.
But markdown files really are a key component of cloud code.
The whole like architecture is basically built on those.
Another thing to know, if you've not used GitHub before, when you're
first setting up Claude Code, you'll be prompted to set up or rather to
connect and set up a GitHub repo.
And this is really important because.
This is where your code base slips, and it makes sure that your code isn't
just on your computer, it's public, or private, depending on how you set it up.
And GitHub as a whole is a phenomenal resource.
A variety of what I'm showing you today On the screen comes from GitHub repos.
you could find open source GitHub repos for a massive amount of
stuff out there, like just by using, the keywords GitHub repo.
And then whatever you might be looking for, right?
Like maybe you're looking for an email server Disclaimer here.
GitHub repos need to be treated with suspicion.
Anybody in the world can publish an open source free GitHub repo.
It is not impossible if you're not careful, for this to not
be a good thing for you, right?
I could easily put malicious code in here or anything like that.
so I'm usually using a GitHub repo that someone has referred to me or told me
about, just because they seem credible.
A lot of the GitHub repos I'm using are, from.
MIT.
there are immense amount of MIT open source GitHub repos that have been
designed specifically for Claude code.
And maybe that applies to other ais as well.
a lot of what I've used to upgrade my infrastructure and capabilities with
Claude Code I just stole from GitHub, it said, Hey, so and so at MIT made this.
And I went and Googled him to make sure that he or she or they
were a real person, and I decided, okay, I will just steal that.
more and more of the features that our mail bond GitHub are getting
added into Claude Code natively.
if you are really nerdy and you read Claude Code's blog.
They are no surprise, they are using cloud code to build claw
code, which is a little bit meta.
And so one of the things I've noticed, especially since open Claw started
trending is that cloud code is putting out new features really, really fast.
Like pretty much every week.
Right now they're rolling out two to three new features.
some of them are not fully developed, which, you know, that happens,
but they're definitely competing.
I would say most of all they seem to be competing with, with open claw, which
I think is exciting 'cause competition in this space is a positive thing.
Okay.
few more things.
There's just a whole lingo.
And I don't want to talk and have you not know what the lingo means.
MCP server, it took me a while to figure out what that meant.
I had to Google it eventually.
this is a certain protocol that's been developed specifically so that
a software program can talk to ai.
And this works across, copilot and a bunch of other things.
It's not unique to Cloud code, but it gives you real time access to things.
For example, like your Gmail account, right, or your Microsoft
account, you can connect those with, a built in MCP server There.
A long list of MCP servers that are defaulted into cloud code,
like they're already there.
And then there are a massive amount of MCP servers you can download or install from
places like GitHub or from the website of the software tool that you might be using.
MCPU servers are great in that they don't require API access and you
don't have to worry about API keys.
And there's just like less to figure out.
they also sometimes have features or capabilities that the API
connection doesn't, they're also terrible for token usage.
I try to use as few MCP servers as possible because they consume
far more tokens than the API calls will consume Think of those
as a static connection, right?
It's a, a wine between two lakes that allows the water to go back and forth as
where an MCP server has to be launched.
It's new every time.
It's redoing the connection every time agents, autonomous workers, those are
the bees that the queen bee is managing.
There are agents that are, Ephemeral.
Thank you, James.
Every time I read this word, I think, what does that, how do you say that word?
So there are agents that are like, they're temporary, they're
bees with a short lifespan.
They're created for specific need, right?
Like maybe I have three emails where they're all asking me for a presentation
that I recorded and I create a temporary agent to go respond to them
all and give them the right links and tell them to have a wonderful day.
and then there are agents that are more permanent in nature.
So those are called persistent agents.
And persistent agents as much as possible, that's what I prefer to work with.
'cause you build 'em once and they're doing something ongoing
for those, those temporary agents.
You definitely don't need AWS, you definitely don't need a server.
those are the sorts of agents that Claude's cowork tool is usually
booting up more often than not.
And then last but not least.
Scheduled tasks.
You can have your agents, if they don't need to always be running,
you can have them do something on a recurring time basis.
Right?
Like every Monday morning, I want you to scan through all the email
newsletters that I subscribed to and give me a summary.
Or every Tuesday I want you to email my mom and tell her to have a great day.
Whatever it might be.
You could schedule out all of those tasks directly in Claude Code.
It's technically just using, Aron job, but it does it so you don't
have to know what Aron job is.
And you don't have to get into terminal if you don't wanna get into terminal.
So let's actually open up Claude, but before I keep going, does
anyone have any questions?
I just flew through a lot of information.
Okay.
Does anyone have any questions on the line online?
Oh wow.
Amy, Sarah, Kyle, Amy and Kyle.
Are saying they can't see the presentation.
You're, you're sharing your whole screen, right?
I am sharing my whole screen.
Was that just at the very beginning or is that still happening?
It looks like it might have been at the very beginning.
Kyle, Amy, Sarah, Can you see anything?
Oh no.
Well, you know, on the plus side I was just covering definitions.
so I suppose it's good that I caught it now.
You didn't miss what I was doing on the screen.
I haven't been doing anything on the screen.
I've just been talking and I happen to have like pretty pictures.
So you missed some pretty pictures and that's sad.
But let's figure out real quick room, if you'll bear with me here.
I do not want our guests who are, oh my goodness.
That's so sad.
I don't know why that would've happened.
You're not sharing right now.
Yeah.
Well that's just super cute.
Super cute.
Well, thank you for those of you who just listened to a podcast without
visuals, I'm gonna have to email you all.
I will set up an agent to.
I'm sharing the screen.
How about now?
Can you see my screen now?
Oh my goodness.
I'm so sorry.
If you can,
yeah, you can see it now.
And can you see, can you see Claude code?
Is it doing like 5 million, mirror images or is it just showing up nicely?
Okay.
I have my messages open.
Wonderful human beings that are joining from the internet.
I will keep an eye on my messages.
I'm so sorry I didn't catch that until now.
Phew.
Claude code.
Now we're actually gonna show things on the screen that matter.
So it's important that you can see the screen.
I have Claude code open and I wanna be precise here.
I have Claude code opened as the software tool on my computer.
You can use it in your browser.
I almost never use it in my browser,
I just downloaded this and kind of forgot that you could use it in your browser.
So I can't tell you that there's anything here that you can't do in your
browser, but I would imagine that there are probably at least a few features,
that you can't do in your browser.
The best part about having it downloaded is that you can then have it interact
directly with terminal and you can have it take control of your computer.
So you can say things like, Hey, Claude, take control of my
computer and write my mom an email.
And it could do that.
It's not a great way to work with Claude.
one because it's not, probably not very safe.
and then two, it just isn't very good at like navigating your computer I would
surmise is still winning in that category.
but you can give it full control of your computer.
So really there's nothing, you can't have it accomplished.
I had it send out, party messages the other week on Facebook.
I made a list of friends and I had it send dms to all of them.
My friends are really excited that I've discovered this tool and it is
allowing me to be way more, annoying than I've ever been before in my life.
So anyways, here we are, we're in Claude Coat.
I wanna demo a few different things, but first I just wanna
give you a brief little tour.
So that button I told you about, ask permissions, auto accept edits, plan mode.
Plan mode being the most important one, bypass permissions, that's the button.
And so if you're talking to it.
And you're getting to used to using it.
You really wanna be in plan mode.
I like to leave it in bypass remissions 'cause it's more fun for
me, to find out what's what breaks.
but that's not probably a wise way to use it.
that's probably why it's spending money that I didn't mean for it to spend.
You have control over the model that you're using.
I can't think of a great reason why you wouldn't be, just
using the most advanced model.
But I suppose, if you're trying to be careful or if you wanna experiment,
you could switch to other models.
If you're not doing anything super complicated, it will save
you token usage if you do that.
But without further ado, I want to jump into, okay, this will be hard 'cause I,
I'm gonna have to rethink how I present.
It's getting to be a bit too much for me to manage the idea of there being people
online and in person at the same time.
So.
What I wanna do is I wanna actually do the show part, right?
So the first demo I wanna do is A live SEO audit.
Now, when I used to own like an agency, I would charge like $5,000 for this.
And so I got really excited when I figured out, that I had gotten out of agency
space at the right time because I can now do this for free if you know how.
So I'm not suggesting that everyone is in marketing or that cloud
code is only good at marketing.
I just have the most background in marketing.
So a lot of the experiments I end up doing tend to be marketing related.
but we will get into some other experiments too, such as filing a lawsuit.
But let's start here with SEO who has a website, no one will wanna volunteer.
Let's pick on Bamboo.
so let's imagine that you wanna do an SEO on it.
You wanna know if your site is running fast, you wanna know if it's
80 accessible, you wanna know, if it's showing up on Google, right?
So first of all, it's important to know that SEO audit experiments involve.
Agents that Claude doesn't have natively on board, right?
So the very first thing that you would do is you would say,
like, GitHub repo SEO audit,
and I'm gonna do this more quickly than you would ideally be doing it just
because I know what's safe already.
it is critical again, that you'd be careful here, but I would look through
these and I would try to find like, which one is either like a brand or a project
that I've heard of before or which one has, a creator that, again, I don't know
why, but a lot of them are from mit.
So I'm usually, when I'm in here, I'm looking for like MIT.
And I didn't go into it in depth earlier, but a GitHub repo that someone else made
is literally, it could be software, it can be a tool, it could be pretty much
anything that anyone could code, right?
So if I want agents for AI that can do an audit, I will often literally search
for Claude, and then I'll say, agents.
So here we go.
This is definitely in the right direction, a universal SEO skill for Claude.
And what I will often do is I will grab the URL.
Now you can clone the entire thing as is.
That's the fastest way to work with a GitHub repo.
but I don't usually do that.
I usually ask Claude a very basic question.
I'll say something like, I want to do an SEO audit of a website.
I found a GitHub repo.
What can you learn from this repo that would help me?
And it will go out to the internet.
It will find that repo.
And the reason that I ask it this question is because I often
forget what I've already set up.
And so I suspect that because I've already downloaded a repo similar to
this, that it's going to respond to me and tell me, Tim, you've already
got the things that this does.
but it helps to do it this way because as you build, you're kind
of creating like layers and layers and layers, and it's really easy.
Even if you keep good documentation and you have a good memory, it's easy
to forget the different layers, right?
So here it is.
It's going out.
To that GitHub repo, it's gonna look through the code, and it
also helps identify whether or not it's safe to use the GitHub repo.
That's another reason why I like to ask it that question.
That way, when I first started out, I would often get answers that were like,
this is actually an unsafe GitHub repo.
you have stumbled upon something where someone is just trying to get you
to buy something, and if you install this GitHub repo, you'll learn that
you actually have to pay for it.
Because I have already installed some of these similar tools, it's telling
me what I thought it would tell me.
But you see here what it explained, right?
This is what it offers.
I'm getting agents that can run parallel to each other, so at the same time,
I can have multiple bees working.
I can do a full site audit.
I can do a deep analysis.
I can do content scoring.
I can do AI search optimization.
People are very worried.
in my opinion, for reasons that they don't necessarily need to be, about
AI search optimization, you can do image checks, like are the images
the right file size and all that.
And all of these are like, as someone who comes from a marketing background,
extremely easy to get horribly wrong.
it isn't uncommon in my experience to find 15, $20,000 websites where if you run a
report like this, it will come up with a long list of things that went wrong.
And so I'm gonna use the tools I already have.
So I'll say, let's use what I already have, run a full SEO.
Page speed and a DA compliance audit on Bamboo's website.
So I did this last week, I had, four sites that I had built.
When I first got into ai, I had built them using tools like
Lovable, which are really popular.
And I knew at the time that I would have to redo them all at some point.
And so last week I decided to move them all over to cloud code where I have full
control over them and where I don't have to pay other subscription fees, right?
It's all kind of consolidated.
And when I ran this audit on them, they were all horrible,
horrible image sizes were bloated.
SEO best practices were ignored.
Accessibility was deprioritized.
And so I spent about two or three hours between all of the sites, using these
agents that I had found with GitHub repos, and I got all the scores up to a
hundred, which I've never done before.
So I was very, very excited.
that was the kind of thing that would've cost a lot of money when I
was charging clients and agency land.
we would've charged tons of money for that.
And SEO agencies, wonderful human beings.
There are so many things they can do, I imagine that AI cannot do.
But when it comes to technical audits, I don't know why anyone would be paying
anyone to do technical audits anymore, because, you can do them yourself and
you don't even need to pay anything other than a Claude subscription.
So here you see it's opening in the background.
it's using a tool called playwright.
Playwright is a tool that allows Claude and other AI tools and
programs to control your browser.
So it's a browser made for automations.
and so I have it hooked up where it'll open playwright.
I did that because it kept taking over my safari and it was really
annoying 'cause I'd be right in the middle of something and all of
a sudden my mouse would go away.
so I like playwright for a variety of reasons, but the main one is
that it'll allows me to multitask.
So here it's saying, Hey,
no.
Oh no.
It's giving me all sorts of information.
So it's running the agents and I'm a skeptic.
Like, as much as I like to try new things, I also always just imagine
that they're probably telling me things that aren't true, which I
think is a pretty healthy habit.
With AI in particular, at least two out of 10 times, it's
lying to me about something.
whether intentional or not is a different discussion.
So, out of curiosity, my benchmark, again, I know this is like very deep
in the weeds on SEO in particular, but my benchmark for SEO has always
been a tool called, and I can't spell it for the life of me, G Metrics.
It's a free reporting tool.
There are like 10 free reporting tools.
Some of them are, so self biased that they'll tell you things
that are definitely not at all important and or accurate.
In my experience over the last decade, this is the one that's
always told me the truth.
Never overstated, consistently, never understated consistently.
So.
What I wanted to know as I was doing this the first time was what does
this tool that I trust say, and how does that compare to what AI says?
Right?
What these agents are saying.
So I'll do bamboo.
And I honestly, I can never remember.
It's horrible.
I can't remember Bamboo's website.
It's why I wasn't typing it in before.
it's okay.
Computer
bamboo cowork.com.
Okay.
So I would take this URL and I would benchmark it in a tool that I trust.
one though that can't just directly make all the changes because this
tool is just web-based, doesn't have like, access to my website.
but by moving all my sites over to Claude Code, which again, I really am not sure
why anyone wouldn't do at this point.
I can make the changes that these audits suggest with just a few prompts.
So every single week now I have an agent.
I have these agents.
I think there were like seven of them doing different things every single
week on my A WSI have them auditing my site because you know, you're always
making changes or you're adding new blog posts or whatever it might be, and it's
constantly auditing the site and then it's automatically deploying fixes too.
So I don't have to spend, you know, all this time worried about SEO Now.
Bamboo.
Great job Bamboo, and thank you Bamboo for hosting us in this physical location today
and for all that you do to support the startup and AI communities in particular.
So Bamboo's doing pretty good.
but you know, I always liked it when I got a a, pluses.
And so if you were to dig into this report, you'll kind of get a
sense of what these agents in the background are going to show us.
It's gonna get really technical here.
It's gonna tell us like the specific structure that's gonna tell us,
images that are oversized, policies that are incorrect, errors in
JavaScript, errors in CSS, right?
We're getting really deep into the weeds here of developer territory.
So that's our benchmark.
Let's go back to cloud code and see what the agents are doing.
Oh, hi agents.
What are you doing?
Oh, you're building me a visual or something That's exciting.
So you see here it's updating me.
It says that.
three of seven agents are done now.
Four of seven are done.
So this does take a minute, right?
It's doing a massive amount of work right here.
I don't wanna pretend otherwise, but it will eventually load that
output and it will give a far more detailed report than, Geometrics did.
Okay.
If you have a website, management company or if you're playing with
this and you have someone on your team that manages the marketing and
they're also in charge of the website, you can literally take this report to
them and say, Hey, go fix these things because I want our SEO to be better.
I want our search visibility to improve.
I want, people who have accessibility needs to be able to access parts
of our website that currently they're unable to access.
So super, super valuable for literally anyone that has a website.
I wish it were a little bit faster.
It would be more fun if it were faster.
I think.
the url, the cloud is mismatched.
Oh, oh, oh.
Fun story.
Well, this is a great on demand example of what not to do.
So instead of giving it the URLI told it to use Bamboo's website
and it didn't know for sure.
Okay.
It took a minute to figure it out.
It seems though it didn't know for sure what website I was talking about, right?
Mm-hmm.
which is a, a big challenge I have with Claude.
I just am waiting for the point where it can literally read my thoughts.
And so I get really mad at it when it doesn't know.
Right?
Like I said, I said bring all the firetruck out.
I didn't mean all the firetrucks, I meant like the ones that we needed, right?
Exaggeration is a dangerous thing to do here, but I'm gonna say for the
sake of time, I'm gonna say, stop what you're doing and show me what you have.
I'm impatient.
That way you guys don't have to wait for all seven of them because
frankly, the difference between what you'll learn from all five and all
seven is not gonna be super valuable for the sake of this demonstration.
But the steps that were pretty basic, right?
I decided a problem that I wanted to solve.
I diagnosed that the capabilities were not existing within
cloud code's current setup.
I went and found a reputable repo.
I borrowed from that.
I found a tool that could benchmark so that I didn't trust what was
happening without outside expertise.
And then I ran the experiment.
I might go on to the next one 'cause there's other things I wanna accomplish.
So while we're waiting for the results of that demo, I'm gonna open
a new session so that other one is running in the background still.
I'm in a new chat window, It's a new chat window.
Another fun thing, my definition of fund might not be the same as yours.
I recently had a dispute with a landlord.
And let's just for the sake of simplicity, even though it's
somewhat of an overstatement, let's just say that that landlord
didn't wanna gimme back my deposit.
A very common thing that happens,
I thought, you know, I wonder if Claude Code can file lawsuits.
That would be kind of cool.
Maybe I don't have to hire a lawyer anymore.
And on a very serious note, the legal profession is one of the industries
that is being most disrupted by Claude and these other tools.
Right now, in Silicon Valley, there's three or four, VCs, startups,
that are growing rapidly and they don't have more than just like a
few lawyers, and they're using ai.
I'm not gonna weigh in on whether that's good or bad or neutral.
I'm not a lawyer, and I certainly would never diminish the amount of
learning it takes to become one.
It is a very complicated thing.
However, a small claims lawsuit, you can't hire a lawyer for that anyways.
You're not even allowed to have a lawyer.
So I thought to myself.
You know, there's gotta be like a GitHub repo out there for people like me,
people that wanna do legal research.
So I search for legal research
repo GitHub, and sure enough, at the top of the results came up.
Some of my favorite words, free law project.
Now I got super curious, I like dug into this, and this is like a national project.
It's a nonprofit that publishes these repos and they have a tool, they
have many tools, but one of the tools they have is called court listener.
And so this is an agent you can install that literally goes out and
finds the most recent legal, cases in your region and or state that
have to do with a specific topic.
So, they've got a bunch of other tools as well.
In order to get access to the repo in its full capacity, I also
had to register for the free API.
So I used that same question that I showed you, Hey, can you
learn anything from this repo?
And it said, yes.
There's all sorts of things I can learn from this repo.
And in order to use the one that I was most excited about, court listener, I
had to register on, the company's free law, or I should say organization.
I just signed up for a free account.
Within five minutes I had a free account and there's a section that said API key.
I copied and pasted that into Claude.
And I said, here's the magic API key.
And I started using it.
It took me about 10 minutes to deploy this, and then I
thought, okay, so what can it do?
Since my divorce was over, I didn't have any divorce things to work with,
which is sad 'cause I could have saved so much money if I had known about this.
But I did have an actual, small claims case that I wanted to file and I lead off.
One of the reasons, the very first reason actually, that I started
using Claude Code is, is this story.
what I had found was that with Chat GT and many of the other API tools,
no matter what I told them, no matter how hard I tried, they just couldn't
figure out how to fill in A PDF.
And there is nothing that I hate as much in life as filling in A PDF by hand.
I will go to great lengths, as I will now prove to you to not hand fill in A PDF.
most, official PDFs are available online, so I just search for official court.
Michigan PDFs, small claims, and this was a really important step.
I didn't figure this out right away.
I had to feed Claude Code, the actual PDFs one by one.
And, what I learned during my first few experiments was that it would
go and it would try to make its own version and it did a great job.
but The court will automatically reject anything that doesn't use
its official SCAO, court forms.
So I took these forms and I uploaded them to Claude Code.
So now at this point, I've got the form and I've got the, the legal research tool.
And between those two things, I just did a really simple prompt, and I'm gonna put
in a disclaimer here because I'm using my own and it will yell at me otherwise.
So I'm gonna say, imagine we have never done this before.
I want to file a small claims suit against my landlord.
Again, just a fake example, of course.
and they held my rental deposit.
I have attached the PDFs, fill them out for me, and with just this
simple prompt I got pretty far.
But then the thing that drove me to search for the legal research tool, I realized.
I don't know anything about the law and I don't know that Claude really knows
that much about the law, so I really need to make sure it's doing it right.
Right.
So then I added in to my prompt something like using the court
listener, agent and tools, research the law to make sure I have a valid
legal claim, cite recent cases.
I, again, am not a lawyer, But I did learn from the good wife that, court
love legal cases that are recent.
So the more recent you can cite something, the more excited a judge will be.
And real story.
I did this for an unrelated matter that I won't be specific about.
And here I am, I am on Zoom in the court and I'm terrified
because I have managed to file a lawsuit using Claude Code.
And I don't know if I did it right.
but I am, talking to the judge and I cite a case that I found with
this exact setup, these exact tools.
And for the first time in the entire, conversation, 'cause there was another
lawyer present too, who is doing a very good job or seemed to be beating me.
The judge literally stopped the proceeding and said, Mr. Haynes,
can you tell me what the name of that case was that you just cited?
And thankfully I had it up on my screen and I cited the case and
he said, I've never heard of that.
And thank God I had that up on my screen too.
and I read it to him and he said, I am not familiar with that case.
Thank you for teaching me about that.
and the whole rest of my proceeding went very well.
and then as soon as the zoom ended, I panicked.
And I thought, what if I just told him about a case that
happened recently, right?
Because I didn't check beforehand.
And so I quickly googled the case and sure enough it was real and I went and I had,
a drink and took the rest of the day off.
but I also want you to hear like, this is, this is a real use case.
Like I've really actually used it this way.
so I will drag you through the whole thing.
because it would be an unnecessary thing for you to watch unfold step by step.
But basically what it does with this setup is it goes out, it does research, it
fills out all the PDFs, verbatim, right?
it has my address, my information, Like at this point I would've
fed it the evidence too.
So I fed it, the receipts or whatever it might have been.
And it spits up a comprehensive, court case.
And I'll stop with this demo and we'll move on to something else.
But I got so excited about this that I decided, as so many people
do with Claude Code and, these other tools, I decided I absolutely am
gonna start an app, that's a lawyer.
Hmm.
After sitting on that for three days, I then realized I'm not a lawyer, and that
if I start an app that pretends to be a lawyer, I'm probably gonna get sued.
and as much as that would be very like meta and intriguing, I decided not to.
So you used your own app to sue you?
Yeah.
I decided not to head down this path, but I won $2,000 last
week from a credit card company.
Nice.
that had refused to remove an incorrect, piece of information
from my credit card report.
And I did it all with Claude Code and this legal research setup that I'm describing.
So again, it is like a real thing.
You really can do this, just as you can really do the SEO audit.
So let's go back to that SEO audit and wouldn't it be wonderful?
Yes, they're done.
Okay.
So here we have.
Remember I told you earlier about those MD files.
It loves these MD files.
I'm gonna say for the sake of time, show me the contents of the MD file here.
Now in stream, sometimes it really likes MD files.
It will make MD files for everything without permission.
I've used it to take an MD file and build me a little, HTML presentation fine.
So, I mean, it's a website, it's just a H TM L document on your computer.
You just open it up in Chrome, but it looks really nice and fine.
Yeah, graphs and everything.
It, I learned about it 'cause it just did it for me once
and I was like, I like that.
That's really fun.
It doesn't seem to wanna show it to me, so I'll just open it up here.
But, sometimes it seems to get like really intense about me using the MD file, which,
you know, I guess if it's a computer.
There.
It's, you know, it's like I gave you this magical thing.
You definitely wanna see it.
So hopefully it, my Mac has managed to index this and search so I don't have to
drag you through horrible search process.
Oh, Alfred and me had a time together, but I got tired of it really, you
know, I go through tools sometimes.
So it's not organized as pretty as I would prefer it to be.
And therefore it's, that is fun to look at as I wish that it would be,
certainly a lot less easy to see.
But as you can see, this is highly technical in nature.
It's auditing the way the code is structured and it's giving
me like specific things that I could do, to improve upon it.
I like it much better.
Show me here, Claude.
So just tell us, generate a visual report.
Lots of all caps for me.
you know, when the AI takes over, I don't know if it's gonna like me, it's gonna
remember all the things I said to it.
I might be the first to go.
I don't know.
But, and I wanted you to see like the actual output just for
proof of validity, but promise.
It really does give you like a super detailed output.
and then what I did is, because I had it on cloud code, I used that
to then go recode all the sites.
And one of my favorite things about cloud code that's in a similar direction, like
if you're looking at this SEO audit and you're like, I don't even have power
to change my site, or I don't even have a website or I wanna remake a website.
One of the simplest ways in the whole world right now to make a
website is to find a website you like, put the URL in cloud code and
say, I really like this website.
Here are my brands and my core values and my services.
Rebuild me a version of this website and it will literally copy
and paste the entire code base and start making changes to it.
disclaimer, I'm not a lawyer.
Disclaimer, there could be copyright issues there if you don't do
that with some sort of caution.
but you really can build anything.
my setup right now with websites that I've built, I use CloudFlare to host all
of the pages, and it's like super cheap.
And then I build everything in cloud code.
So I publish right to CloudFlare, from Cloud Code.
I have the API connected, and so I can literally make changes
to my website constantly.
like as I'm a startup.
That happens quite frequently for me.
So as like a very simple example of something I built with literally
like one Claude code prompt the other day I was thinking.
you know, I really don't like scheduling with Tim Haynes.
The link in my email is bothering me because I'm using Gmail or
Google's like free scheduling tool.
I canceled ly when, the free scheduling tool came out.
But then I started feeling upset because it wasn't like a branded, experience.
And I literally just typed in a paragraph.
I said, Hey, I use Claude.
I use Google's free scheduling tool.
I don't like sharing a link that's like messy in my email.
I have this unicorn flames.com website.
I'd love to have like a branded experience.
And literally in 10 minutes, it built me a branded experience.
I'm not saying it's gonna change your life, you know, it's, it
still eventually goes to the tool.
And if I got further into it, I could get rid of that click too.
But my point in that is it's.
So easy to build things.
The reason that everyone that's using Claude Code right now, or Open
Claude is deciding they're gonna be a software engineer and start a
startup, a craze that that definitely has its faults and downsides is that
it's just so easy to build things.
If you can imagine it, you can truly create it.
Now, I wanna walk you through something that I think will be super valuable,
which is like the specifics of how I've set it up Now, in no way, shape or form
am I saying that this is the best way to set it up or the only way to set it up.
none of those things would be true, but if I had had, someone tell me
these things, it would've saved me in a immense amount of time.
And that is my goal, is to kind of get you to the point where you're
building as soon as possible.
So I'm going to pull.
The actual setup that I'm using, and I'll just kind of run you through it real quick
and then we will wrap up with q and a.
Okay, good.
There's no scary messages in chat.
I just had to check real quick Oh, I typed in Claude.
I'm so, wow.
I have a real addiction.
Can't even type in the right website anymore.
I'm trying to type in, Claude for everything.
It really has gotten to the point where I feel like Claude and I need
some time away from each other,
you know, no relationship is healthy if it's nonstop, so we probably need
to take some space from each other.
But anyways, so.
The setup that I use right now costs me, well, as of this presentation,
it costs me, I'm spending $200 a month for Claude Code.
You could easily get away with, with a hundred dollars a month, you could
easily get away with $20 a month.
Some people I see on the forms that are especially, cost savvy, are using two
free instances of Claude to run Claude Code because you can connect the API
key from one, to Claude code, right?
So there's all sorts of ways to hack the setup.
another way that I limit token usage, there's one of the many repos you
can find is called a token router.
And so what that does is it routes.
All of the, like, the easy stuff is how I would describe it to other, a APIs.
So I have Gemini for free, because I have like the business suite or whatever.
So it's suppose technically free, but it doesn't cost extra.
So I have it set up so that 80% of what I do, even in the interface
we're just looking at together, it's actually behind the scenes.
It's routing to Gemini and it's using my tokens there.
And most of the token usage that I have is in the chat interface,
which is the primary thing that I like about, Claude Claude.
Code allows you to get to the level of orchestrator faster, in
my opinion, than any other tool.
Now, I haven't actually used, Co-Pilot.
I'm not a Microsoft fan, so I haven't played with that and I
am certainly not suggesting that it doesn't do great things too.
But getting to the level of orchestrator is a really big step.
If you wanna think about, learning to use cloud code in like
levels, there's a helpful visual.
that kind of explains the different levels that you can use FOD code at.
And if you're feeling like today, like that was way too much, keep in mind that
we ran through a lot of levels together really, really quickly, and didn't get as
far into the weeds, as I would love to do.
We're going to continue down this path, next week.
So there's.
Different levels of Claude code.
I won't summarize them in detail 'cause that would be unhelpful,
but what I want you to think about is three different levels.
Level one is like the basic, you're just dumping stuff into chat.
You're basically using it, the same way you might use the web interface,
but it's a little bit more connected.
Nothing wrong with that level.
That's where I started.
Level two is like infrastructure and next time I wanna get deeper into
infrastructure as I'm hoping to do like a full end-to-end build of something.
'cause the demos are fun, but we're flying through a lot of stuff fast.
But in the infrastructure, one of the most important things you
can do is what's called a loop.
And so when you create loop.
Slaw will know automatically to save or to update something.
So like a really simple loop would be, every time I update this webpage,
make sure you also update the internal documentation located here.
So keeping things together.
Loops are really good at that.
a lot of the loops that I have, I use a project management system called, Clickup.
Many of you may use other tools that do the same basic thing.
whether it's Basecamp or Asana or whatever.
All of these tools have APIs.
And so a lot of times I'm asking the Loop to automatically update the project or
the task because one of the challenges I had before I started using loops was
that the tasks were out of date, right?
which is a problem for project management.
So if you think about the second level kind of being like architecture, I'm
featuring loops just 'cause I hadn't talked about those before, but memory
and D files, your setup, AWS servers, cloud, all that, The highest level
that you can reach in Claude is what I would describe as orchestration.
And that's where you're truly a queen bee managing an entire colony
when you're doing orchestration.
And one of the things that Claude can do that not all the AI tools can do, is it
can run, you saw, use the word parallel.
It can do things in parallel I usually use the word simultaneously
'cause it's easier for me to spell.
Either way.
I never spell either, right?
I don't know why.
but.
Yeah, the idea there is just like, it sounds, it's doing
multiple things at once, right?
So with that SEO audit, it was running those agents in parallel.
I didn't have to wait for it to do each one, or at least
I shouldn't have had to wait.
It didn't seem like it was cooperating from my perspective, but you really
wanted to be running things in parallel so that it's doing as much as is possible.
What I want you to know though, is that if you skip the, the infrastructure part, and
try to move straight into orchestration, you'll run into a lot of problems and
most of the problems that I am running into right now, but most of the challenges
that I'm running into are caused because I tried to skip the infrastructure.
'cause you know, that's just how my brain works sometimes.
I wanted to see what all would break.
Before I bothered with the infrastructure and it's rather difficult to go backwards.
so I would highly encourage you not to do that.
So I've got a Vulture that's a, a virtual private server.
We talked about that.
I've got that handling my email.
I've got it Also handling like a voice agent.
I haven't perfected the voice agent right now, but I've got it.
testing this week its job is to make a call to an oil change place, a
veterinarian place, and my doctor, and to schedule appointments.
And it's like talking for me and I'm like reading the logs and wondering what
the experience is like for other people.
but yeah, my goal is to never have to make a phone call again.
I hate scheduling appointments and so many places I used to schedule appointments
with require you to do it over the phone.
so I've got that running.
the virtual private server too.
It's got its own server.
'cause it takes up quite a bit of room, takes up quite a bit of memory.
The.
Cloud is where I'm running all the agents.
Those are the, the, the queen bees that are like running constantly.
Those are all working on AWS and if that goes down, I get like
a critical alert email and then I have to go troubleshoot it.
And again, because I set this up retroactively, it took me quite
a while to squash all the bugs.
I think I'm down to like, maybe only a few bugs right now, but during the
first week it was a total disaster.
I was up till two in the morning every day I tried to fix it all.
These are the MCP servers I'm using.
I've got focus, my CRM, I've got a hard rule set where
nothing can go out to anyone.
No contact can be contacted in any way, shape, or form, or even worked
with if they're not in the CRM.
I've got Gmail.
I showed you court listener.
I've got, the swarm brain was originally a repo that I borrowed from, which
is how I got the language swarm.
the Clickup tool I talked to you about.
Of course, I've got it connected to my Google calendar.
I use a, another browser that also functions on the cloud
called Go Login that allows you to run like multiple social media
profiles at all at the same time.
It has fingerprint detection, avoidance, and a and a few other things that
help you stop from getting flagged.
if you're doing things, let's just call them.
and then, I connected this all to my money management tool as well.
'cause I thought that would be fun.
So I can work directly with like all my financial data via Monarch money.
And then Figma is where I have started building out all like my design templates.
although you saw me using Canva, Canva doesn't play very nice with ai.
They pretend that they do, but they're really not that good at it.
These are some of the hard rules I have just for inspiration.
and they sound stupid 'cause that's exactly what hard rules should be.
They should be kinda stupid.
never.
Stop doing something without approval.
Never spend money without approval.
Never claim something is done unless verified there are all sorts of case
studies out there where if you say, don't stop until all the lights are green on
the dashboard, it will just change all the lights to green on the dashboard
and then tell you that it's done.
So in its mind, it did exactly what you told it to do, but in your mind it did
exactly what you didn't want it to do.
never contact anyone outside the USAI did that because it loves to
confuse Holland, Michigan with the Netherlands and it was driving me crazy.
Never replaced workshopped copy.
It's done that a few times where it will just decide on its own accord
that the last three hours of work together didn't matter and that it
has a better version of the copy.
and it has even deleted my copy, which made me especially unhappy.
As you can imagine, I can do everything from business operations, content,
financial tracking, scheduling marketing, legal research, browser automation,
to voice communication, and I'm using the voice communication more and more.
I've been reading, case studies where once you get the voice agent really working
the way you want it to, where people are talking to Claude over the phone.
which would be really useful for me.
For example, the way I made this presentation, I went on a walk
last night and I voice recorded myself for an hour and a half
And then I transcribed all that and I created a prompt telling
Claude to make this deck.
And it did a pretty good job.
I've made zero changes to this step.
from the design standpoint, it could certainly be improved.
It's kind of pretty boring.
but I literally have made.
No changes at all to this deck.
Wow.
This was all created from a transcription that I created while on a walk last night.
So the idea of being able to like, talk to Claude directly on the
phone, I don't know if that's, if that's exciting or strange or both.
Probably somewhere in between.
These are the repos that I've used, and again, this will
all be, this is all recorded.
I'll give you copies to all this, but I've found repos for SEO court,
listener playwright, the swarm brain, and then, this other one I just
started working with, which is how this PowerPoint worked so well that
wasn't using like default settings.
I found a repo, that makes it really easy to use transcripts to
programmatically generate, decks.
before that I was not having very good luck with depth generation.
I'm getting to the point where I'm quite happy what it's able to produce.
And then this is how I have my memory system set up.
Cloud MD is the parent.
It will always be the parent.
It's the very first file that cloud loads when you open it up.
And then I've got memory md, which is basically like the glossary or the
directory where Claude goes to find references to all the other things.
I've got a separate section for feedback memories.
I've got all sorts of like project notes stored in here, like, you
know, for the Blue Ocean project.
Greg has a birthday on the seventh.
Make sure you tell him happy birthday, that kind of stuff.
and then.
I realize that even though I don't have that many files on my computer, I have
like 2000, a lot of them are, PDFs.
And so I've spent a massive amount of time just organizing my computer.
That's actually the one thing that I found Claude Cowork to be really good at.
Yeah, I, I just used it.
I'd been doing that all with like my own custom scripts and then I, I switched
back to Cloud Cowork and realized that I was doing it the hard way.
cloud Cowork is really good at organizing files, but just like any AI tool, it's
only as good as the data you give it.
And it's more importantly, it's only as good as the data
that it knows how to find.
Right.
So by taking the time to organize my files and then to create a system where
it knows where those files are, I don't have to constantly say, I've already told
you that, or I don't have to constantly like re-explain something, in my.
Workshop On the last one where we talked about web interface, I talked about using
PDFs a lot, and I do use a lot of PDFs, but the reality is that, Claude Code
does not love PDFs unless they are ocr.
So using Claude Cowork to OCR or, translate all of your PDFs into like,
op, I forget what it stands for.
Text recognition that a computer can do is the long way to explain it.
that makes it a lot easier for it to read PDFs quickly and it
makes everything go a lot faster.
And then.
Saving the session.
We talked about that at the very, very beginning.
I'm always doing that.
I very rarely ever use it.
but every once in a while I do.
like the other day when I thought I had finished this PowerPoint and an hour
later, I came back after turning off the computer and had to start it over again.
Now, to be fair, I didn't do anything but have to re-upload a prompt.
boy was I angry.
how dare it make a mistake.
So that was a fire hose.
If you are online and you need to leave or have already left,
we respect and celebrate you.
Kyle Casp?
Yes.
Oh my goodness.
I'm gonna not put the chat.
Wow.
That's just okay.
If I do this, then you guys don't have to deal with the multiple windows,
but I got the chat open, so if you're online, feel free to participate
if you're in person, of course.
Literally any questions?
I went through a walk.
So for your website, you've been using WordPress.
Mm-hmm.
And we have a developer that I can plug into the dashboard too, to make changes.
But you said you like your agents are managing your website entirely.
Are they Like writing CSS and HTML, like purely and then Okay.
So like something like WordPress or Webflow stuff is
just not, you wouldn't use it.
It Claude wouldn't use it.
It could.
I think Web, I'm a big fan of Webflow.
Webflow I believe has an API so you could connect it.
that's not WordPress though.
WordPress doesn't, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, my company, the people I work for uses Webflow and then my
fiance's company uses WordPress.
You know, the disclaimer here is that I come from like 10
years in marketing, right?
But when I look at this after the last month, I truly don't
understand why web companies exist.
I don't understand why WordPress exists anymore.
I don't understand why CMS exists because I can change and create literally anything
with a prop like, the SEO on it was.
Headless, headless CMSs are about to skyrocket.
And the nerd in me gets sick.
Three that have come out of Grand Rapids, one that got publicly or when
got bought by, oh gosh, payload cms.
Oh, yeah.
Started, I think we're upstairs here, basically.
yeah.
We're they're one of the big ones.
Yeah.
I, and I say that as a WordPress dev for 15 years.
I don't touch WordPress any, unless a client can't afford it for me
to do, spend the time to do this.
But even then, I'd rather move them over.
Right Now it's more about convincing them that WordPress is not the best
thing anymore, despite being, you know, what, 60, 70% of the internet.
Yeah.
You know, it's going away.
I don't wanna say it's going away.
There are a lot of smart people@wordpress.org,
but I don't see them.
Making the initiative to, to add features and the, the ease that a lot of this does.
But in order to use this, we have to have, they have to be API.
Is that right?
Except, yeah, but you don't need to know the api.
Okay, thank you.
Yeah,
I guess we are gonna wrap up here guys, so if you have any other questions, I guess
you can email at tim@unicornflames.com.
But yeah, I don't know why it's hard for me to imagine why anyone would.
Most people just don't know yet.
It's not out the market.
It's not in the media yet.
Kyle, thank you for joining.
Thank you everyone online.
It still seems scary.